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Post by akajimbo on Jul 28, 2004 1:12:14 GMT -5
Hello. My first post here. I've just dicovered this site. I remeber there was a site called Hyundai Connection couple of years ago.
Anyhow, I met with a friend who works for Hyundai motors R&D in Korea. He told me that the NF Sonata was the first car that he thought can play head-to-head against top 3 Japanese companies, namely Toyota, Honda, and Nissan. His story is quite compelling as this is the guy who previously was never a big advocator of his company or Hyundai car. According to him, all new V6 3.3 litre engine that will be offered in US model is as good as the latest engines from Honda and Toyota, meaning it should generate something like 220-250 HP.
Well, thought this might be of interest to you folks.
Brian from Korea
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Post by eCkS on Jul 28, 2004 1:15:30 GMT -5
awesome... thanks for the info... and comeback when you get info..
welcome to the forums ;D
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Post by duke on Jul 28, 2004 11:49:50 GMT -5
akajimbo is correct, but his friend forgot to tell him, that the NF will also come with an all new HD-designed 2.4 ltr. 4-banger
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Post by hjr on Jul 28, 2004 22:48:56 GMT -5
4 cylinder to be 160Hp, I read. Will i tbe made in Dundee MI, or imported? I know the 4's in MI are gonna be 1.8/2.0/2.4 liters, for Dodge Neon, Lancer, and Hyundai(one site claimd the 4's won;t fo into Hyundai products in USA? Hunh?).
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Post by thejoyof6 on Jul 28, 2004 23:01:58 GMT -5
CENSORED posted some new info over at Hyundaiexchange about the KDM NF. I will be kind enough to convert them from the metric system.. Length: 189in Width: 75.85in Height: 57.08in Track (F-R): 60.62, 60.23in Wheelbase: 107.87in Fuel tank: 17.17 Tire for F24S trim: P215/50R17 N20, F24 trim: P205/60R16 Engine: Theta 2.4L(2,354cc) Max. HP: 165 ps at 5700 RPM Max. torque: 164lb at 4000 RPM Theta 2.0L(1,998cc) Max. HP: 145 ps at 6000 RPM Max. torque: 139.58 at 4500 RPM Theres some new features added like a telescoping steering wheel and power adjustable pedals etc etc but nothing really new or unexpected. Thanks for all the latest info.  |
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Post by megadethmartyrdethmartyr on Jul 29, 2004 17:53:23 GMT -5
CENSORED, just checking to see if that's what keeps getting censored. hehe
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Post by thejoyof6 on Jul 29, 2004 21:45:35 GMT -5
By these dimensions the new NF is exactly the same size as the accord except the width which the NF is almost 4 inches wider and the accord has a slightly larger front/rear track.
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Post by eCkS on Jul 30, 2004 22:58:41 GMT -5
CENSORED, just checking to see if that's what keeps getting censored. hehe LoL  ;D  |
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Post by hjr on Aug 4, 2004 2:07:24 GMT -5
telescopic steering column and pedals that adjust, also soudns like Focus I once test drove. I found the steering column thing good for short armed people, like myself.
That 4 is about as strong as my 99 sonata V6!
I like that 145HP, an d nearly 140LB of torque ,for what, next Elantra?
That is closer to what test drivers for mags say it needs, but still maybe 15 HP short of what they;d like.(they said 160-170hp fo rthat GT elantra, and you;d have a huge seller, even more so than now).
I am guessing prices won;'t go up a lot, because of that Global Engine Manufacturin Alliance making theese engiens in Japan, South Korea and Dundee Michigan(next year)..... DC said on thecarconnection.com An d detnews.com.autoinsiders that they will save 100 Million dollars versus making similar 4's at their mexico plant(by working with Hyundai and Mitsubisi/sahring costs, parts,etc).They can make a Toyota/Honda like(or better?) engine w/o any real major pricing increases(maybe decreases?).
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Post by hjr on Aug 4, 2004 2:09:49 GMT -5
from thecarconnection.com 4aug04 daily edition
Global Engines to Save DC $100 Million
Though it is otherwise reducing or severing ties to its Asian partners, DaimlerChrysler expects to save $100 million annually through Global Engine Alliance LLC. The Dundee, Michigan operation, which will produce a new line of "global" engines, was formed as a joint venture between DCX, Mitsubishi Motors Corp. and Hyundai Motor Co. It will begin three-crew, two-shift, 120-hour-a-week operations in mid-2005, Bruce Coventry, president of the Global Engine Manufacturing Alliance, announced during the opening session of the Management Briefing Seminars. The project, he declared, is "utilizing the best engineering inputs from Mitsubishi, Hyundai and DaimlerChrysler," with a goal of "significantly reducing capital and program lead times." Among several steps taken, the venture purchased three sets of manufacturing equipment in Michigan, South Korea and Japan. The alliance is outsourcing everything that it doesn't see as core to engine production. The Dundee factory will produce 1.8-, 2.0- and 2.4-liter engines. The $100 million figure was derived by comparing the forecast price of producing those four-cylinder engines compared to what it costs at the DCX plant in Saltillo, Mexico.
So, maybe we won;t see any major price increases when the Sonata(4) and the Elantra(06?) come out?
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